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Re: x264 10bit编码推广讨论

upyzl 写了:
我目前倒是还没发现什么问题……用的是Xhmikosr icl12版本 r3959
噢,我听vx说还有问题的。没有问题那就太好了,连加注需要cccp才能播放的必要都没有了。
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Re: x264 10bit编码推广讨论

我用的是ffdshow r3959 MSVC2010,可以正常解码10bit。
Yousei-raws这个1080p rip用了10bit,一集还有2.5GB,我被吓到了:http://yousei-raws.org/releases/softenni
这个新的作品还是8bit的,作为8bit,2.5GB的大小还算可以…………吗?

还有ANE的发布页:http://afternoonnapsempire.org/ookami-s ... ama-tachi/
有人说10bit应该是8bit一半的文件大小,tp7说你可以不用再来这里了。
virox
10bit and still 1,2 GB, yeah no.
Also, you should put Hi10P into the filename, at least.
And why don’t you start releasing in 720p again, most shows aren’t even 1080p to begin with but only 720p.
Well, whatever…

skullking123
virox you have a sexy avatar. Just saying… :3

tp7
>>Also, you should put Hi10P into the filename, at least.
It’s in the folder -> torrent name, also mentioned in the post. That’s enough for me.
>>And why don’t you start releasing in 720p again
Don’t see any reasons I should do that, so no again, sorry.

afggfdsgdsas
there is no difference between 1080p and 720p (in this show)
you’re doing 1080p just because you’re feeling like doing 1080p, not 720p, right?

tp7
More or less right, yes.

virox
And what about the filesize? 10bit should be able to work with half the size of an 8bit encode, I’ve seen examples. And even for 8bit, 1,2GB is too much.
And I thought with 10bit people would finally stop bloating anime.
I enjoyed your Yosuga no Sora 720p rip, but I don’t think I will be getting this. Too bad, I was planning on getting your Denpa release, you seemed really enthusiastic about it.

tp7
>>10bit should be able to work with half the size of an 8bit encode, I’ve seen examples. And even for 8bit, 1,2GB is too much.
You should close this page right now and never open in again.

virox
Oh boy, it’s like I’m on 4chan.
Better encoding algorithm = less bitrate needed for same and better quality = less filesize.
You are no better than Coalgirls.

tophf
They deserve some love, so don’t be cruel to them, please.

tophf
Those who prefer quality over everything else always lamented over extremely poor results of 8bit x264 in either dark and/or very large flat areas, and we had to compensate the deficiency of 8bit with gradfun2dbmod dithering which in turn required a lot of bitrate to keep its neat noise pattern, because in case of insufficient bitrate as you know all kinds of ugly quantizing artefacts are plenty.
But nevertheless the 8bit result wasn’t too satisfactory for us.
Now thanks to a genius of GSoC participant and devoted work of x264 developers we have those 10bit which everybody craved for and is crazy about nowadays, so we can have smooth and carefully tuned (gradfun3′d if necessary) encodes which satisfy our high demand of quality for the first time in a lifetime, while the file size was never a goal by itself due to its inferiority.
Quality matters, size doesn’t.

akett
If you can’t get less filesizes w/ same quality compared to Yousei, you don’t needed.

tp7
Lolol, bro, it isn’t something for you to decide. ;)

tophf
Being needed isn’t on our list anyway. You should stop attentionwhoring around.
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Re: x264 10bit编码推广讨论

<Dark_Shikari> stop doing this tp7
<tp7> what?
<Dark_Shikari> making 1+ GB 10-bit encodes of 24 minute anime episodes.
<tp7> and why should I do that?
*Daemon404 readies this flame barrier
<Daemon404> his8
<Dark_Shikari> Because the entire point of 10-bit is to improve compression so that people don't have to make gigantic encodes to get the quality they want.
<mirkosp> what the hell
<LobsterHime> lol 1080p
<LobsterHime> lol flac
<mirkosp> kuragehime was pretty static, wasn't it
<Dark_Shikari> Yes, it's not even a high motion show.
<Daemon404> 1+ gb static "1080p" + flac
<Daemon404> woo.
<Daiz> and 10-bit!
<Dark_Shikari> 13 gigabytes for 11 episodes of a mostly static show.
<mirkosp> perhaps he wanted to do 2GB+ encodes
<Dark_Shikari> in 1080p when the source isn't even 1080p
<mirkosp> so he said
<mirkosp> man it's almost half of the size
<LobsterHime> :o
<mirkosp> it's an improvement
<mirkosp> (・∀・)
<LobsterHime> sugoi
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喷到后来tp7没声了么……
日常推 @dgwxx: 基本没什么技术的话题,欢迎没事看看消遣。
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lol 24bit的FLAC太大了
日常推 @dgwxx: 基本没什么技术的话题,欢迎没事看看消遣。
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连DS都出来喷了么233
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06_taro 写了:小容量就算120M->80M也就节省40M一集,要是BD从1200M->800M就是400M一集,我始终不认同高分辨率收藏版就可以码率随便飘高,否则原盘质量高的BD就不应该rip而只应该remux。对大部分人来说,下载耗时长体积对硬盘空间压力大洗版麻烦的高分辨率大容量收藏版的收藏偏好-体积弹性其实应该比下载时间可能只差5分钟体积反正肯定不会危及硬盘空间方便性也差不了多少的小容量要大得多。
只是说优势没那么大,绝对不代表可以胡乱飚码率的,taro大您理解错了><。

所以说之前小白说的前提还是兼容和片源情况,只管PC不管其他(兼容啊,下载量啊等等)的话大可以全盘10bit化,但是之前说的不是推“广”嘛,就小部分encoder或者ripper转上10bit实话说也不能算是推广吧。所以综合考虑的小白得出的结论也就是前面菊苣们说的。。
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还是希望移动设备尽快搞定High10,不然……
つまんねー事聞くなよ!

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Re: x264 10bit编码推广讨论

histamine 写了: <Dark_Shikari> stop doing this tp7
<tp7> what?
<Dark_Shikari> making 1+ GB 10-bit encodes of 24 minute anime episodes.
<tp7> and why should I do that?
*Daemon404 readies this flame barrier
<Daemon404> his8
<Dark_Shikari> Because the entire point of 10-bit is to improve compression so that people don't have to make gigantic encodes to get the quality they want.
<mirkosp> what the hell
<LobsterHime> lol 1080p
<LobsterHime> lol flac
<mirkosp> kuragehime was pretty static, wasn't it
<Dark_Shikari> Yes, it's not even a high motion show.
<Daemon404> 1+ gb static "1080p" + flac
<Daemon404> woo.
<Daiz> and 10-bit!
<Dark_Shikari> 13 gigabytes for 11 episodes of a mostly static show.
<mirkosp> perhaps he wanted to do 2GB+ encodes
<Dark_Shikari> in 1080p when the source isn't even 1080p
<mirkosp> so he said
<mirkosp> man it's almost half of the size
<LobsterHime> :o
<mirkosp> it's an improvement
<mirkosp> (・∀・)
<LobsterHime> sugoi
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我在cccp恰好看到这一段-_-当时还没注意tp7呢

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